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Old Aug 22, 2007, 06:29 PM // 18:29   #61
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I voted NO since there is no option that fits my opinion on this; and here is that opinion-
1. Inscribables should stay being a mostly-NF feature.
2. Purple items should not be inscribable (I have a few perfect req 9 purples, which just seems wierd to me but oh well)
3. The 'Quest-Chests' like Mallyx's, Kanaxai's, should continue to function the same. Expand this concept to other areas of the game (havent done TopK in ages... does this have a darknesses chest?) such as Sorrows Furnace, God Realms, maybe even Masters' Quests or something.
4. High-End treasure chests from non-elonan chapters should have a chance to drop gold inscribables, to add some fun back to chestrunning, and give some flava to the old skins.


So, theres a few different layers to my idea, and a few contradictions, but I think you get the general idea eh
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Old Aug 22, 2007, 06:57 PM // 18:57   #62
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Talk about beating a dead horse with these debates.

*prediction* Anet will implement what they want for the greater good as they see fit.

But for the sake of polling: I pretty much agree with what Horseman wrote.

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Old Aug 22, 2007, 07:14 PM // 19:14   #63
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[quote=Darksun]Sure I do. Because worth to me is not based on wealth. End of story. Talk all you want about prices and rarity. At the end of the day I like the item that I like. Making it more accessible to players is only better. If they made rare items that were only different in name (so people knew you had the 1337 item) then that would be fine. As long as someone could outfit their character with the item look they wanted.


Either you're lying for the sake of argument or I should feel sorry for you and the amount of time you spend playing GW. Either way you're probably in the minority.[/quote]
1. They could do that pre-inscribable items. The items which they couldnt afford then with perfect stats they in some cases cannot afford now inscribable.

2. Just checked age and its at 2000 hours. Works out at like 2.6 hours a day. I thought it was 1500 but what with the 4 month holiday I am on it has obviously gone up. A huge chunk of that is afk. I could make 1 mil in 10 days only playing 3 hours a day or so... Drok run 15-20k per group, just over 2 groups per hour, so roughly 40k ish an hour lets say. Do for 3 hours per day thats 120k in 3 hours, but round down due to disconnects, scammers etc and say 100k in 3 hours. Then there is all those customers which paid me o so well, 100k for thk, 250k for rof, abadons etc, 25k for each desert mission. Two alone have paid me a mil each. Power trading in golden age, picked up one item for 60k offered 3.5mil for it. Another 120k --> 2.5 mil. 2.5 mil --> 1000e +. And those nice deals just keep coming so easily. I havnt actively had to make any gold since oo hmm, waaay pre-nf. I guess I am lying or dont have a life (especially since I play gw for 12 hours a day -_-). And to think my pve and pvp accomplishments are okay too.

Hmm most expensive droppable item. Maybe a R9 Inscribable Stygian Reaver or R9 Inscribable Crystalline sword. 400e or so each. Whats that these days? 2 million gold? I have known multiple people who have bought fow armour from pve only and no farming which they were proud of. They posted here on guru actually. (edit: r8 +30-2s /-5 20% magmas is more maybe but even then still affordable).

Anyway, GW sucks for rarity as nothing is rly rare now bar a few items. Titles ftw, especially expensive ones.

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Old Aug 22, 2007, 07:26 PM // 19:26   #64
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Running missions and Running people was the money maker back about a yr ago, yet some ppl still do it and make alot of money doing it... 2-4k / person running droks still adds up, so does soloing verish and soloing abadon.... it isnt the fastest money, but i personaly know of a few ppl doing each of the following above getting FOW armor in about a week.

Power trading is the "now" for fast cash, atleast for some of us.... I leave the mission / area running to the newer players to do to make money, i was there once, i know how hard it is to deal with scammers, and a few of you reading this may have even ran some of my char places, and all know i pay well, sometimes i just get a run to help someone make some cash....

Point is, there are ways to make money, and dont try to push that in anyones face with this discussion
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Old Aug 22, 2007, 07:49 PM // 19:49   #65
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Casual players have the chance to make alot of gold casually. If they chose not to make it that is their problem. If they chose not to think and take advantage of certain situations that is their fault. The opportunity is there.

If you are not willing to take advantage of any situation and do nothing to make gold then that is your fault. If there is a massive need for a certain kind of run and a shortage of runners then alot of gold could be made, e.g. old school drok runs.

No more, "If you dont want inscribable items you are elitest who has no life", comments or similar. If you dont know how people made their gold please dont throw such statements their way.

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Old Aug 22, 2007, 08:29 PM // 20:29   #66
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Bottom line:

If gwen is not inscribable, people will just ignore gwen drops and keep farming nightfall.

The inscription system is great. They just need to spread the system to every weapon out their, not take it away.
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Old Aug 22, 2007, 08:55 PM // 20:55   #67
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Anyway, GW sucks for rarity as nothing is rly rare now bar a few items. Titles ftw, especially expensive ones.
until it was mentioned here i had no idea you were that rich as you have not been an ass about it.

looked (wrong place obvously) but could not find the answer.

some time ago i went for and got drunkard than thought about ale hound on my favorite 3 character and got the needed spiked but due to the time invested now i am thinking of possibly selling the spiked eggnogs sitting on the mule account.

what is a pardon the pun *liquidation* price (non duped) on ale hound lots of spiked eggnogs per unit?

just a very rough ballpark guess to give me some idea as i might find a GWEN item i really like and would pay/trade for
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Old Aug 22, 2007, 08:56 PM // 20:56   #68
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look at he poll... I don't think that leaves room to argue
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Old Aug 22, 2007, 09:07 PM // 21:07   #69
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Inscribable weapons are a good thing for the majority of the GW community. Inscriptions give any player the option to 1. fully arm all their heros with the smallest amount of money (good for new folks especially) 2. costomise their weapons to certain builds,(example:I have a guild member that has a different scythe for each of his builds). 3. obtain any skin in the game for a more reasonable price then the items from all the gougeing PoS folks selling a item(crystalline sword,Mini pets[especially]<-I know not on topic but is still BS) for an outrageous amount. I like the non inscribable items how ever because they look betting in a trade window. So on that note I stick with inscribable items because they serve a greater purpose for the vast 4million GW players(mainly because the costomizable factor).
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Old Aug 22, 2007, 09:11 PM // 21:11   #70
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Hey Ho,
"voted" inscribable because that is what they gonna be...

But hey you sure miss out some great stuff like this:



just love that one

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Old Aug 22, 2007, 09:42 PM // 21:42   #71
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Hey Ho,
"voted" inscribable because that is what they gonna be...

But hey you sure miss out some great stuff like this:



just love that one
i got a real nice fire damage wand once (might still have it on a mule)

only problem was my ellymonk could not meet the MARKSMANSHIP req or the ILLUSION REQ

other than that it was just perfect
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Old Aug 22, 2007, 10:28 PM // 22:28   #72
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i got a real nice fire damage wand once (might still have it on a mule)

only problem was my ellymonk could not meet the MARKSMANSHIP req or the ILLUSION REQ

other than that it was just perfect
Wait...what? Marksmanship on a wand? I'm gonna have to call BS on that...
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Old Aug 22, 2007, 10:56 PM // 22:56   #73
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You know what really grinds my gears? All the people who claim that the inscription system kills kittens and destroys the fabric of the universe are the same people who say that loot scaling is the ultimate evil inflicted upon video gamerkind.

Look, all the old system does is create a false sense of rarity by making most items worthless. You effectively get 1/20 the usable drops in the old system compared to inscriptions. I don't think there's anyone in their right mind you can claim that having one mod be special and unchangeable is more logical than a system in which all mods are, well, modifiable.

So, for all the people against inscriptions because they make things more common - would you be happy if drops were made inscribable, but all drops are reduced by 95% to simulate the horrendous quality of tyrian/canthan drops? If not, quit whining. If so, I'm pretty sure the 85% of players (probably more) who voted yes are going to flame you to a crisp.

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Old Aug 22, 2007, 11:10 PM // 23:10   #74
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until it was mentioned here i had no idea you were that rich as you have not been an ass about it.

looked (wrong place obvously) but could not find the answer.

some time ago i went for and got drunkard than thought about ale hound on my favorite 3 character and got the needed spiked but due to the time invested now i am thinking of possibly selling the spiked eggnogs sitting on the mule account.

what is a pardon the pun *liquidation* price (non duped) on ale hound lots of spiked eggnogs per unit?

just a very rough ballpark guess to give me some idea as i might find a GWEN item i really like and would pay/trade for
300-600g per spiked egg nogg I believe it is. People try and buy for the lower end and resell for the higher end of that range akaik. 500g each, 10,000 mins drunk, 3 mins per spiked eggnog, 1.6 million gold or so is value of spiked eggnogg to get drunk lvl 2 title. I may be mixed up with another drink though as I dont rly pay attention to them as i got mine at 1st halloween event.

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Old Aug 23, 2007, 12:08 AM // 00:08   #75
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You know what really grinds my gears? All the people who claim that the inscription system kills kittens and destroys the fabric of the universe are the same people who say that loot scaling is the ultimate evil inflicted upon video gamerkind.

With that statement u totally contradict urself... if u didnt notice... and if u maybe... hmmm read a few threads, u will see how few, if any of the ppl who dislike inscriptions commented anything on as u put it "loot scaling is the ultimate evil"

Not to change the subject to loot scaling, but you cant even compare that, or mention that in the same topic as this... Here is a link, learn what loot scaling did, and how it was directed toward bots....

I and many other "high end traders" as were labeled are fond of the loot scaling cause it is cutting down on all the bots...

Now... Back on topic....
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Old Aug 23, 2007, 12:26 AM // 00:26   #76
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With that statement u totally contradict urself... if u didnt notice... and if u maybe... hmmm read a few threads, u will see how few, if any of the ppl who dislike inscriptions commented anything on as u put it "loot scaling is the ultimate evil"

Not to change the subject to loot scaling, but you cant even compare that, or mention that in the same topic as this... Here is a link, learn what loot scaling did, and how it was directed toward bots....

I and many other "high end traders" as were labeled are fond of the loot scaling cause it is cutting down on all the bots...

Now... Back on topic....
[snarky]

Ok, fine, you like loot scaling, me too, we agree on something.

Back on topic, would you be ok with implementing inscriptions but reducing drops to 5% of their current levels?

Second, would you perhaps like a mod that would cover up the name of the inscription, thus making it indistinguishable?

[/snarky]

To be honest, I think there's an irreparable divide between "carrot and stick" players like yourself, and players who like the game for the fun, the challenge, the social atmosphere, and the joy of innovation.

Personally, I don't think constantly reaching for that green light is particularly fun ingame or in life, and I'll never get why people do it, but hey, do whatever makes you happy. But please, don't try and ruin the fun for other people, eh?
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Old Aug 23, 2007, 01:28 AM // 01:28   #77
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The problem is that most of the people bemoaning the supposed demise of the economy, do not mean "economy" in the sense that a normal player does - the grand balance of player transactions between each other and the various money sources and sinks. What the bemoaners mean by the destruction of the economy is anything that cuts into their profits.

I'm not at all saying there's anything wrong with wanting to make a profit. What I'm saying is, when said beg for a reversion of policy which makes it harder for casual players to get desirable items: consider the source.
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Old Aug 23, 2007, 01:56 AM // 01:56   #78
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Imo inscriptions will continue in GW:EN, and honestly, i dont care. People who know me know that I diffinately don't like inscriptions, as I just like being reminded of the "good old" days of GW :P. I think that if you are a new player, then yes inscriptions are cool, and its nice to get the skin you want. However, at least for me, after 2 years of playing this game, I want something that is truly worth spending the money I have earned, that is cool but also near unattainable to a new player. IMO inscriptions and uninscribed are like cars. You can get a honda, which is a rlly nice, cheaper car that runs and has nice features, or you can get a Mercedes, which is much more luxurious in all ways but still does basically the same thing for you, gets you around. If you have money you go for the mercedes, if you dont, the honda is still cool.
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Old Aug 23, 2007, 02:16 AM // 02:16   #79
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Its been said the weapons in eotn will be inscribable. Which is fine in my eyes since it makes it easier for someone who doesn't have the time to farm and buy expensive and perfect non-inscribables. Who cares at this point anyway? After people beat this expansion they'll move on to better things. I've asked many people I know who will be doing just that.
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Hey Ho,
"voted" inscribable because that is what they gonna be...

But hey you sure miss out some great stuff like this:



just love that one
Thats a perfect weapon!Great for the necro/monk with a 3rd profession as a mesmer oh wait
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